Category: Entrepreneurship
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Early Customer interactions are very valuable
It is a hard time for entrepreneurs visiting a prospective client.Very often the entrepreneur comes back with the feeling – this guy just chewed away my time. He/She didn’t give any feedback on the product, nor did he give me the purchase order!This is typical of the very first meeting, but over meetings the scenario changes. The entrepreneur could look at the multiple interaction with prospective clients in a different light. In these interactions, entrepreneurs are over loaded with tons of unstructured data. The entrepreneur needs to structure them to be able to figure out a common thread and focus on it – make the data into a valuable, actionable information.Yes, while the entrepreneur is focused on selling the product to the prospective client, the client is really looking at what more can be got out from this product when in use. The client is looking at how the product that you intend to provide could be put to use – their focus is typically at cost reduction, scaling quicker than the competition etc – in essence overcoming an obstacle.Very often, we as entrepreneurs do not distance ourselves from the product we are trying sell. The product that we go to the market could be just be a technology offering – if is important to make it a customer usable product with some “finishing touches”. The Entrepreneur could leverage this wealth of information to really thinking of creating the “product” from the “technology offering” that he/she would get to the market.As an example – you could have built a conference plat form, but the interaction with the customers keep giving you the repeated questions – Can I know where the customers come from? How much time they spend on it etc? Clearly, the customer is looking at some analytical interpretation of the technology – so adding a layer of analytics and presenting as a dash board could really make it easier to sell! -
Look beyond technology when starting a Product Business
If you have been following your friends who are starting off closely with a new technology business idea – you would have probably found the following scenario:Very often, one finds engineer entrepreneur who comes up with an interesting insight from technology and attempt venturing out on his/her entrepreneurial journey. Invariably, one finds that most of these entrepreneurs focus on developing their products for a very long time, so much so that, they do not know who their market is! They wouldn’t have even spoken with a single customer! They face a constant internal resistance and find it hard to get off their office where they are comfortable with their technical expertise and step into selling the product they are building!In making these statements I do not intend to say that entrepreneurs who are technologist cannot build a business – it is an attempt to get them to move out of their offices into the shoes of a businessman.As some one who has started a business, begin with the following understanding:- Technology is not Business – Technology is generally a component of business that helps in delivery.
- Get out and Sell – It is important to sell the product that you are building, if you don’t sell the product there is no commercial use of product you might build.
- Engage with your customers early – Do not wait for the complete product that you think has a market. Go in with simple to use features and see how the market reacts and listen to what it wants.The following suggestions could help you to start on this:
- List product features into a priority (your thought) and freeze in on the first 2-3 features in this list
- Make a list of customer (prospective) that you think could benefit from these features
- Quickly build this feature set (do-not change as of now)
- Approach a Customer and ask him to try out as a commercially free product but give you feedback
- Listen to the feedback – improve your product with the feedback
Clearly, listening to the market early is important to ensure that your product is market accepted and it is important to do it early than late in the process of building your business. Get out of your comfort zone – businesses really need to be as close to their customer and not in the high rise offices…
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Poor Little Rich Slum – Rashmi Bansal & Deepak Gandhi
Traveling is a really interesting learning period.Yes, it really is – that is why the old adage in Kannada Says – “Desha Nodu, Kosha Odu” (Roam around your country, Read books) yes that’s the best way to acquire knowledge.Pretty much that’s is what happened this time when I was traveling to Tirupati. I picked up one of the books from my shelf – still unread yet small in size. It was – Poor Little Rich Slum.Yes… its another of the books by Rashmi Bansal. The book is about Asia’s Largest Slum – Dharavi, lying in the heartland of Mumbai. I had heard quite a bit of the entrepreneurial activity that happens in Dharavi and thought it would be a quick read.Just 2 minutes into the read and I was completely engrossed into it. Loved the stories of the entreprenuers there and also the change makers. These were the two major sections of the book and just loved knowing about these entrepreneurs.I suggest this be an essential read for those people who want to know about the entrepreneur scene in India.Go ahead… Its worth a buy. Read it and enjoy the Journey through Dharavi. -
Big Bets, Big Rewards – Sushil Mantri
This book accidentally landed up in my kitty of reading. While working at NSRCEL, there are numerous books on entrepreneurs that you would get to lay your hands on and this was one such. I borrowed the book to read and its simple narrative style caught my attention.Illustrating not his complete life story, but some interesting events that happened and how he negotiated them – Sushil Matri scripts his journey up the ladder. There are interesting nuances he gets out about how he leveraged the various things at his disposal to really build the Mantri story. I loved these narrations.
This book is an interesting read – and I suggest this book to any one who is looking to get into entrepreneurship. Having said this and known the little I know from the book, I think this book is also a precursor to something that might be coming up soon – a Mantri IPO? the guess stays…
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The Lean Startup – Eric Ries
It had been a long time since I read a book this quickly!Yes, there are some subjects that interest me and definitely entrepreneurship is amongst the top. I have been reading many books on start-up and entrepreneurship, and with the ability to relate to the problems/issues of the entrepreneurs whom I meet day in and day out as part of my role as incubation I connect pretty quickly with them.I got hold of this book around a week and half back and I was able to manage my time to finish this book quickly! I didnt have to spend too much time doing context switches. The five principles that mentioned in the book struck a good chord with me. These principles are:- Entrepreneurs are Everywhere
- Entrepreneurship is Management
- Validated Learning
- Innovation Accounting
- Build-Measure-Learn Loop
all touch a simple chord with entrepreneurs. The style of writing is pretty much simple which makes it rather simple for entrepreneur to actually use these techniques in their business.My vote goes with this book for any one who wants to know about starting off – especially in a B2C and IT heavy companies. For others there might be some tweaking of the insights developed to suit their domain.Check the website: http://theleanstartup.com/ -
Entrepreneur’s Interview – Metrix Line
Sachi: Good evening, today we have with us Prashanth Kaddi – a NITK and IIM A AlumnHe has since started the company called Metrix line. Without further delay lets request Prashant to give a background about himself and then explain about his company.Prashanth: Thank you,I am Prashant. I had a very studious background –my schooling at Kendriya vidyalaya and then moved on to do my bachelors in Computer Science from NITK in 1995. Through the campus placements I joined IBM. While at IBM, I looked at how the IT industry was working and wasn’t happy with it. So within an year, I got a call from IIM Ahmedabad.I had set a goal of being management consultant when I joined there; I got an opportunity to do my summer internship in the company – Anderson Consulting in their business consulting wing. I realized that just consulting wouldn’t give me what I was looking for; I needed more action in my work.While at IIMA, I attended a course by Prof Sunil Handa – Laboratory in Entrepreneurial Motivation. I didn’t have a very clear objective of what the course would give me – the course gave me a stimulus into what I wanted to do in life.I joined ICICI from the campus placements, partly motivated by the education loan I had to clear. I also wanted to look at the marketing front of activities in business. I had a pretty good stint here – I was involved in many new financial product design and marketing. The impact of our work was significant – with a lot of results to show. The work I did was interesting, but I was not feeling excited about the environment – working in a large company. After having a stint in large companies this far, I felt I didn’t like working in large companies.Jump into entrepreneurship was more a decision from the head than the heart – I didn’t enjoy the stress levels that was building up which in turn prevented me from enjoying the good things that were happening around me.After 2 years at ICICI, I began talking with a lot of people – there were multiple groups formed focusing on different ideas. In one such group, I had found a batch mate of mine, who himself wasn’t very serious – but put me in touch with his senior who was keen on starting off. This partner of mine had begun working with a startup and stayed with its journey towards being a large company. The idea we began working was – governance of IT outsourcing. Having observed the business very closely at IBM and Mphasis (where my partner worked earlier) – we realized that- It is a high value business
- It has a large amount of inefficiency built into it.
We decided to use metrics and quantitative assessments, which could according to our estimates increase the efficiency by 10%. Nasscom was projecting the industry to be of $ 50 Billion – and say with 10% we would be saving $ 5 billion for our clients. So clearly the company product we were developing had the potential of being $100 million.We got our first consulting assignment in the same space – which could fund salaries of 5-6 people, we put together a small team – this was around end 2005. We came out with the first version of the product in 2006, two things followed –- This version received a lot of resistance from the market and it wouldn’t fly easily.
- We would require raising finance to accelerate product development.
From our friend’s experience and the reading on the internet we realized that the equity we would part for this purpose would be extremely high!The good thing that happened during this time was that a couple of companies we were speaking to began showing some traction – the challenge that these companies were facing was about the silos of organizing data. Each of these were understood only by certain group of people. Take for example – A product manager wants to get the P/L associate with his product; unless the finance person has the bandwidth to provide this info, there was no way it would be accessible to him. But this was an important feeder into the decision making about the product line!This was the space of analytics and business intelligence. Tough our platform was capable of doing this, but we had a very narrow domain focus. We realized that we needed to make the product more generic and this would help us get a lot of traction. Large companies hadn’t figures out the solution to this problem world wide – So this was a problem we felt we could solve for the world the very first time from India!IBM has bought a business analytics company for 6 billion dollars in 2008. SAP bought “Business objects” for 5.5 billion dollars. Harvard guys have begun writing about this too – a book called “Competing on Analytics”. These changes have happened over the last 5 years. In the book “Competing on Analytics” it is said that – product is no longer a differentiator – the only differentiator is going to be quickly you understand market trends and how quickly you could react to these trends.And everybody looking at there is huge growth market, and in in hindsight the traction was real. So today, we have a product which we call –a data to information platform – we have figures out how we are different from all other solution in the market, also differentiate ourselves in a competition from large companies like IBM, SAP or other dozens of companies that have emerges in the same space.Sachi: How are you addressing the challenge posed by the larger companies in the field?Prashanth: We could look at it in 2 ways – the technological angle and the business angle. These are not by design, but have evolved over our years of business.In general, any data to information service provider would do the following 3 things- Aggregate the data at a single place
- Analyze and Synthesize the data
- Interpret and Present the data as information.
Traditionally, it was extremely hard to have an integrated product for all these – it was typically a combination of 4-5 different products. These had to be configured and programmed to work for specific organizations – this meant a large cost implications for the companies. The companies would have to invest nearly Rs 4-5 Crores before beginning, also the problem addressed was typically fewer in numbers. This was a huge pain point with users.We focused on this pain point and designed our technology to be extremely flexible with minimal programming effort at the customer end. This would make our product easier and faster to deploy. Our objective was to reach to zero-programming design; this has put us way better than many existing products. This was the differentiator on the technology front.Pretty early we realized that most of the enterprise IT solutions were moving to hosted and subscription based solutions. The poster boy of this move was – Salesforce.com. Lot of people were beginning to say – I don’t want to buy your software, I just want to use it – this was a shift from ownership to usage of a license. Given this, we decided to try out the subscription model.This decision helped us reduce the extra costs associated with trying to sell a high priced product. This was a differentiator for us from the business model point of view.Sachi: In your journey of the last 6 years, what have been your best and worst moments?Prashanth: Entrepreneurship is a crazy emotional ride with many ups and downs.One of our first down we faced was when one of our best product developers quit – that was primarily for money. Since we were a small group, this reduced our team size by nearly 10%! It was really hard to accept this for a few days!The second down side we faced was when we lost a client – we had engaged very close with a company; but then there was organizational restricting and the CEO with whom we were working was fired – the organization changed their complete direction; which made us redundant. We had even begun making some revenues and if the contract had gotten implemented completely, it would have defined our next growth! 2009 was anther hard year; we were close to closing 2 enterprise levels working with 2 fortune 500 companies. One of them fired 40% of their staff! What we had projected to achieve in 2009, we were finally able to achieve it in 2011.In 2009 when we came up with the product, the market was tanking; but we stuck to what we had decided to have our first 10 clients from among the fortune 500 companies. This would make it easier for us to sell to the 11th client. When we achieved each of these milestones – it was great feeling.Another high has been in the last 2 years, when we were in direct competition with the major companies. When we won contracts for specific products from this competition – it was a bigh high for us.In start ups, you don’t have the time to enjoy your small victories for a long time; you need to move on.Last year was the most memorable day for me – It was when we signed our contract with Microsoft. This was special for 2 reasons –- They themselves had a competing product to ours in the same space
- They are the world’s largest product company.
Sachi: How did you sustain in the last major economic crash?Prashanth: 2009-10 was really hard years. We had entered the market in 2008 and the product revenues had just begun kicking in; the services revenue was still with us. While the services helped us survive, the product side was severely dented.The crash taught us an important lesson – Our primary target at that time was the US market given the margins. We realized that over reliance on US was really terrible – since then we have tried to expand our business into a mix of developing and developed economies.Since we have subscription model for our product – it was in some sense was a recession proof business models. Though initially we stuck with this as a matter of chance, it proved to be extremely beneficial for us.Sachi: from this experience, what was your biggest take away?Prashanth:1. When I look back I realized I was hung upon the Idea – which could be 100 million dollars; I didn’t want to be a small shop. In reality – you have to be there and do that, in order to say that you know. It cannot be based on imagination.2. Cash is absolutely king.3. Its ultimately about people – we need to take this aspect more seriously and learn to keep the motivation high and running. It’s ultimately all about retaining the best talent when you have little monetary buffer.Sachi: What is your message for the aspiring entrepreneurs?Prashanth: Start with a right motivation – it has to strong emotionally to handle the ups and down of the business. Do not take to entrepreneurship for reasons like – the glamour quotient associated or just for fun.As a broad principle having an understanding about the space is a good starting point if you are thinking of – this is for non breakthrough sort of innovations.It is important to manage the friends and families who would be your support line in this journey.Sachi: Thank you Prashanth, thank you once again. -
Entrepreneur’s Interview – Flower Aura
Sachi: Welcome, Today we have with us Shrey, founder – Flower Aura.Could you please tell us your background and something about flower aura?Shrey: I began the business of Flower Aura in Jan 2010, after working at Quetzal. The intent was always to have something of my own and that’s how I started this business. I and my cofounder always felt we wanted to operate in the e-commerce space. Both of us were from IT background so we felt online business is what we wanted to get into given our IT background, and also the financial restrictions, but we were not clear about which domain we would operate in. Gifting struck to me as an option since I had difficulty with the poor quality of service that I had personally experience – this let to us starting off with Flower Aura.
We made a search of around 40-50 websites, even at that time – but they were not an e-commerce site really. They were florists who built websites for additional sales rather than having online business model.. We were confident we could do a better job than them.
When we entered the market, our expertise was IT, but this is just a part of the business. Operations is critical in the whole game, and we are still learning, and this would be very important for our growth across cities.
Sachi: Currently in which cities do you operate?
Shrey: We have a reach in over 100 cities – These are through the affiliate networks of existing florists, which we built by visiting different cities over the last couple of years. We have handpicked these florists, and provide them with a checklist of things before they go and deliver.
Not everything has been smooth sailing; there have been bad experiences in the past. We have sort of stabilized this now.One big challenge in the current mode is that – on Valentine’s Day typically 10% of the year’s transactions happens. When you do not have your own warehouse, and you are dependent on so many people who are not under your direct control. There are absolutely no issues through the year but on that specific day something goes wrong – we would have to show a sorry figure. This strains our relationship with the customers.
Sachi: Feedback is critical for your business, how do you handle get this?
Shrey: We encourage the recipients to send us a picture with the flowers they have received, along with some write up. These could be testimonials as well as some negative feedback.
Flowers are agriculture based, extremely delicate – so we have to factor in the losses that might affect due to these. Our florists too have been very understanding of the fact and have supported us this far.Sachi: Your business requires you to negotiate with florists across the country – how was the experience been?
Shrey: It has been pretty difficult – in all the major cities are able to do it, because we are in a position to provide them volumes. We can have strong terms with these partners. They were florists who built websites for additional sales rather than having online business model.
In the Indian Context, As we have also started our workshop in Gurgaon, we can relate to their challenges and work more closely with them. Both founders work on this aspect. We have divided the cities amongst ourselves and closely work with the florists.
In addition to this, there is the forecasting of such a perishable entity that getting as precise with the forecasting is important.
Sachi: Do you support your florist’s network in different cities with forecasting?
Shrey: We provide our florist network with a forecast of how many orders we can provide on Valentine day before hand.
We provide for only 5%-10% of our partner’s business so they do not heavily rely on us, hence there is no great dependence on our forecast. But we see this could be extremely crucial in the future as we grow larger.Sachi: Could you tell us a bit about your partner in business?
Shrey: My partner is Himanshu, who was my batch mate from in my engineering days at NSIT Delhi. The cities we hail from were along the same route and that helped bond better during those days.
Post engineering, while I worked at Quetzal in Mumbai, he was my roommate and used to work at TCS there. We used to discuss numerous ideas every day at that point of time and finally started off.
At the point of starting off Flower Aura, we had almost similar skills, but over the last 2 years we have focused on developing complementary skills. He focuses on technology, while I take care about marketing. For the operations, both of us pitch in.Sachi: How did working at a start up help you?
Shrey: I worked at Quetzal in the online and offline education space – I gained tremendous confidence from this experience. This helped me work on projects from scratch to scaling up. I started around 7-8 different products, and this experience of starting new things and meeting different people to make it possible etc was very valuable. I realized that in a start up you need to extremely generalist to begin with and be pretty open to get moving quickly.Sachi: How was the experience of moving from online education to running an e-commerce industry?
Shrey: Definitely the two industries are definitely different from each other. When we entered into the e-commerce business, we entered it with the assumption that the major component would IT based. We realize, getting orders is only one part, there are aspects like how to buy, purchase, manage inventory, forecast etc.The Marketing skills I developed while working in the educational space is what I carried over to this business. The other skills required today are the ones which we have acquired over the last 2 years.
Sachi: Did you choose to get into the e-commerce business based on the trend in the industry?
Shrey: We got into the e-commerce business when the industry was just emerging. We operate in a very niche segment of the business, not many people operate in this segment given the kind of challenges I have discussed earlier. There are some funded companies which have a lot of money to spare for the business promotion unlike us. We have started off in a boot strapping model using the investment of the founder.Given that we have bootstrapped ourselves, and had a lot of learning by taking care of the operations ourselves, we are in many ways a head of the companies that we currently see.
Sachi: Are you looking for funding now?
Shrey: Yeah, I guess the time is pretty apt now. I guess this is the right time to grow and we will grow irrespective of the fact that funding comes in, but funding can definitely speed up the growth.
Sachi: What would be your major learning other than the operations that forms the basis of your business?
Shrey: I would say the major learning we have learnt is on the business front is the human resource management. Questions like, how to get the right people, hire them, retain them etc. Nearly 40% of my time is spent on managing people and handling issues related to them. From my experience I realize that, if you take care of people who are working with you, most of the operation and marketing things will be taken care of automatically.
Sachi: What is your message to aspiring entrepreneurs?
Shrey: My message is follow your heart and be smart.When people come to me with the take that being an entrepreneur is extremely risky, I simply say – It’s not very hard to earn what you are getting now, so where is the Risk?”
Yes it will require some of your patience The entrepreneurial experience one has would be extremely valued and cherished.Sachi: Thank you Shrey for the interview. Thanks.
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Interview – SecurityXploded.com
Sachi: Good evening. Today we have with us NagareshwarTalekar who runs the community website called SecurityXploded.Nagareshwar, could you please begin the interview with a brief introduction about yourself and then explain what SecurityXploded is about?Nagareshwar: Thanks, I am a Computer Science Graduate from KREC – Surathkal of the 2004 batch. I joined Novell before moving on to Citrix where I worked on virtualization technology.Since my college days, I used to do a lot research and publish articles in sites like Codeguru, Codeproject etc. Most of the tools I built during that time were all free. I grew more passionate about this, I felt I would need to have a portal of my own where I could share the work I did – so I finally launched my own website – the primary objective being to share the research work which revolved around reverse engineering and security tools. The site was named – SecurityXploded.The first tool I wrote was – “FirePassword” which was incidentally the first password recovery tool for Firefox, I then wrote another tool, FireMaster to recover the master password of Firefox. I would constantly add tools to this website based on the reverse engineering – so the website continued to grow.I was more involved in Reverse Engineering stuff figuring out hidden things under Windows, undocumented stuff and write tools around these discoveries to make the system better.For example: One of the tools I developed was the ProcHeapViewer – whichcan enumerate process heap memory on Windows much faster than the documented API functions – reducing the time from 20-30 minutes to just 10 seconds!This quality work began getting attention from a lot of people. The users were steadily rising.Around the same time, the work at Citrix was draining a lot of my energy and I couldn’t focus my energies on my passion of reverse engineering and tool development – This was around 2010. Around the same time – the movie “3 Idiots” inspired me to make the choice of taking this passion fulltime.I guess the timing was also right – I had completed 7 years of corporate career; I decided to go full time to work on SecurityXploded and also had intention to run a Startup later on if things go well. That is when I decided to quit my work at Citrix.I made this my first priority to complete the tools in my long to-do list and began working full time on it. These helped the website rating increase too –We grew from “Alexa Rating” of top 500,000 websites to coming in the top 100,000 websites.Today we also promote a lot of local and international security conferences bringing more focus and success to these events.We also have local monthly meets along with other security communities such as null, g4h, owasp etc. Since this January we have also started a free training on ‘Reverse Engineering & Malware Analysis’ delivered by experts from corporate firms and some of our core team members. This is extremely beneficial for anyone either students or professionals working in this field.Sachi: Tell us more about building community and how challenging it wasto start with?Nagareshwar: Looking at the work I was doing, my friends approached – then some more people to put their stuff on the website. But that time it was more of personal knowledge sharing site. Then it stuck me that I can make it like Community Website where other passionate folk’s mainly young security geeks can showcase their work. It can not only help them to utilize the popularity of the website but also take their work to wider audience in shortest span of time.So I transformed it to a Platform for contributors to freely publish their work.To make it easy for the contributors, I adopted detached model (rather than volunteer-ship) where they neither have to work for SecurityXploded nor have any commitment from their side.The intension was never to increase the contributors, but to help youngsters get early recognition and grow at the international level. Today we have instances where people have got very good jobs having put up their work on the website. We cannot take the complete credit for this but it has definitely helped them to grow from no-one to some-one. That makes the difference!So we are not like any community that runs on numbers and volunteers – this model mostly works as a medium to inspire youngsters to aspire for more – become role models for others. This is where I derive my satisfaction and motivation to live for another extra day JThis website has taken a lot of my effort into it – it is not easy. For Example: When someone submits and article, I proofread it, fine tuneit, add graphics etc–giving it that professional touch. This makes the article look far more professional than the original one. This takes a dedicated 4-5 hours of effort from the draft to final article. At the end of the day it is worth it.Some of the contributors are now part of our core management team and they work on Training, leading local meets etc. All these efforts have immensely helped us to cut across the Indian boundaries and to grow at international level with strong community support.Sachi: Your site operates on a completely free basis – so the consumes of your website have given extremely good testimonies to signify the work you are doing. Could you explain a bit about that?Nagareshwar: Currently, the portal contains tool written by me as well as other contributors. I specialize in writingtools; I can write tools faster than writing an article. Of course excluding the research work which takes significant amount of time.As of today we have over 80 security tools, nearly 70 of them developed by me alone. Some of these are also comparable to professional software from Elcom Soft. A major portion of these are password recovery tools, and most of the users are from the US, Europe and India. Over the last year, the downloads have also increase in line with the growth of the site ranking.Our tools are recognized & published by leading downloading sites like Softpedia, Brothersoftetc and given 5 star rating, editor pick awards etc. Around 5 of the tools have crossed over 100,000 download mark. Our best tool, Facebook password tool has crossed over 800,000 downloads in just 14 months! Imagine if we had charged $1 for each download and assume 10% conversion – we would have been far wealthierJ.Our users are either home users or professionals spanned across the world, but last year we had one special person – who works in Forensic investigation at Police Dept of Delaware County, USA. He wrote to us thanking for our Password Recovery tools and how they have helped in his forensic investigation. That was one of the special moments and he later sent us testimonial also which is featured on our site. Another memorable testimony was from the president of CompUSA – for our SpyDLLRemover tool. We have also received nice words from couple of security community founders citing our good work.These testimonies inspire and keep us on our tows all the time.Sachi: Your website operates on a completely free model, and you haven’t worked for the last one and half year. How do you manage your finance?Nagareshwar: Yeah, frankly it has been difficult period. It is not easy to convince people at home – saying you are on our own, running a community etc. especially in the Indian context. More than the money part, convincing at home was most difficult task and people are still not convinced.I had planned that; this activity would take substantial amount of time and so had been saving for a while. I am not married Jand have noother financial liabilities too. The internal urge was getting stronger, and I knew I had to jump in full time at some point. I expected it to be difficult and had planned my finances for a year or so.At the SecurityXploded end – the major cost for us was the hosting – it doesn’t come free. Initially I paid it from my pocket, but later on it become difficult when last year we moved from shared hosting to dedicated-hosting. Now the advertisements and promotions help us to cover the hosting cost.It is the satisfaction at the moment that I derive. And finally what goes around comes back around.Sachi: You have been doing this for the past 4-5 years, it takes a passion to do something like this.What drives the energy for you?Nagareshwar: Yes it has been nearly 5 years. Initially, it was a difficult especially when you try to manage your full time job along with it.The sort of reverse engineering I do, generally goes for days often weeks together –you constantly concentrate on the binary numbers on your screen.Once the research work is completed, it will lead to new tool or article. This takes a lot of work and energy. It is primarily the passion that has kept me kicking all these years. Inherently I am blessed with lot of energy and passion that drives me to do things – I guess it’s a God’s gift to me which helps me keep running.Sachi: What is your message for aspiring entrepreneurs?Nagareshwar: The most important is – pursue your passion.An entrepreneur needs to look beyond the monetary gains. An enterprise cannot be built with only money as the motive. You would have to be passionate and believe in your ability to pull off things that you dream of. Only this can help you sail in the tough times and surge ahead!Sachi: Thanks Nagareshwar, thank you once again. -
Entrepreneurs’s Interview – Sen6
Sachi: Good evening, today we have with us Smruti Parida. He is the founder of this company called Sen6 networks along with his batch mate from NITK Suratkal – VinuthWelcome Smruti to this interview. Could you please let us know your background and then tell us about your company?Smruti: Hi, my name is Smruti; I am computer science graduate from NITK Suratkal, from 2005 batch. Immediately after my graduation, I was joined United Online.United Online was a small 400 people company in Hyderabad which works in the area of email protection, spamming etc. For two years, it was a very good experience working on the basis of internet infrastructure; and definitely a high learning phase. I really experienced the potential of internet and its ability to bring convenience on a scale unthought-of.After this, I moved on to Microsoft, where I worked for 3 year; I had the opportunity to work on “Bing” – the search engine. While working on this project I understood the way in which large projects are handled – how the efficient strategies could help achieve significant results. These learning were always happening.I also began thinking – what does ambition mean for me? What would be my vision for life etc? After 5 years of working for these companies, and thanks to circumstances – I decided to take the plunge into entrepreneurship.Along with my cofounders, I started Sen6. The idea of Sen6 has changed since the initial thoughts we had. All of us cofounders were technical people and with a background in internet technologies. We firmly believed that internet had the potential to break barriers and make people act smarter and more productive. Since one of the cofounders had an inclination towards arts, we decided to start working with this focus. Our objective then focused on empowering the artist so that the artists in remote areas can reach out to the rest of the world easily. We now envision ourselves as creating an e-bay like platform for Indian art.Through this platform we would be democratizing the whole art scene in India and get to the forefront many talented artists and their original works which are inaccessible otherwise. The platform would attempt to put the middlemen and advisors, consultants etc – this could thus disrupt the existing structure and make the whole scene transparent.Sachi: You told your cofounder was instrumental in getting to operate in this domain, Could you just tell us about how you met your co-founder and how it started off?Smruti: I didn’t do too much homework in choosing the cofounder – he was my batch-mate at my engineering college. Both of us joined United Online together and while there, we were also housemates.We found that our frequencies matched. We tried doing things part time, however since our interest would quickly shift from one to another, we failed. That is when both of us came to the understanding that starting off something would be only possible when we are full time on it.While there could be an analytical way to find a co-founder, for met it is the pre-established connections that helped. We used to complement each other well and that was something that helped find the right team for us.Sachi: Since you operate in the business that deals with Art Industry. Could you just brief tell us art and how the art work?Smruti: I would be very frank that we do not understand art industry completely. The understanding we have got is by reading, meeting artist, and people who deals with architect, interior designs, art galleries etc. So we would like to say that our understanding could pretty much be wrong but I shall talk about the problem we address.The consumers of art could be at any place, at your home, hotels, resorts, or art gallery – where you see paintings. It is generally the interior designers who really get these art pieces into these places. The kind of art that these interior designers get is called affordable art. But still art in general hasn’t been accessible to common people.One of the reasons for this is that Artists are generally not the people who would like to market their work – they are happier exploring their skill. There are people who purchase art at a value which is much lesser than the market value of the art and make profits out of the deals. The price differential between the 2 is extremely broad.There are lots of middle men who operate in this business, and generally art continues to remain accessible only to a small set of people. We want art to be accessible to common man – we do not want art to be considered as something that could decorate the walls of your home. There is lot of very talented artists whose work doesn’t get recognized – primarily due to the accessibility or lack of discovery platform. We want to be that discovery platform.Reports say there are nearly 30,000 not so noted artists and trough the online platform we intend to give them a larger customer base to derive value for their art pieces.Sachi: In the last one and half year of operations, what has been the major learning? Do let us know some of the major mistakes you have done and how you overcome these?Smruti: If I am to look back and think if the work that I have done this far – I feel I have taken longer than usual to accomplish this.One of the initial mistakes was with us taking a long time to open up our minds – As said earlier, we were technical people and when starting off a business it requires a complete change in the thought process. It took us quite some time to get this realization. It would be of enormous help if this mindset shift occurs before you start your business.As a business man, you would need to get to meet various people; understand their minds and only then will you realize that the way your consumers perceive your business. You need to be a salesman of sorts. In our case, we had to meet a lot of interior designers who are comfortable with the current way they do their business, then you go to them and talk about the platform which has features they might not need! You need to be persuasive, and not expect that things would happen naturally. It always helps if you can make a strict routine.What we had done was building the product that we believed had to be the best in the world – but we now feel it would have been better if we began entering the market and showcasing the platform to people much earlier. Dividing the work and continuously being persuasive is what we learnt in this exercise. We are now smarter with this experience.Having said that, as an entrepreneur, one is generally curious and wouldn’t follow the book; it is only when he has attempted and learnt from the mistake that he really learns it. It is really this characteristic that differentiates them.Sachi: Your business has 2 parts to bridge – one is the artist and the other is the purchaser of these art pieces. How did you go about bridging this?Smruti: It wasn’t really a big problem for us, since our business was attempting to get a business model that had worked in the west, it was useful to learn from their experience and use it into the Indian context.We found quite a few Indians who use these international websites to sell their work – we wrote to them and able to get them signed onto the platform. The appreciated our efforts to target the Indian Market. There are nearly 5 lakh other people across the world who also used the same platform and when we started sen6, they felt there could be a good recognition for their creations.Given our culture and traditions, only an Indian could understand and appreciate Indian Art, the larger western audience couldn’t appreciate this to a large extent. So this problem wasn’t a very difficult one.Sachi: How did you get through to the paying customer?Smruti: Once the artists signed in, they asked their regular purchasers to use this platform to make the purchase of their art. So the initial set of our orders were received that way.We did some online marketing through Google Ads, Facebook etc and these campaigns helped us get a few more orders.We are currently working on building a B2B connect for the online portal.Sachi: How would Sen6 be in say three years time?Smruti: Our study indicates that there are 30,000 artists in India who constantly generate new art, so we are targeting having around 15,000 of these artists on this platform.We want to create a brand for our self in the home-buyer section of the business through the convenience that Sen6 intends to provide.We also want the large B2B buyers using sen6 for their business and professional needs.Sachi: the customer of you platform could be anywhere across the world, how do you manage the logistic if you do manage it?Smruti: Currently we operate only in the re-production print and fine art prints of original works business and not in the original painting sales. This is to keep our self in line with the affordability focus we have. In this model, the digital copy resides in our secure store and when a sale is concluded, we take care of printing and shipping the product. We accept the payment and then transfer the artist his share with a 15 day time period.For original painting, the costs of these would be much higher and we would handle the logistics when we get into this segment of the market. Currently we are staying away from this.Sachi: What is your message for the aspiring entrepreneurs?Smruti: If you are aspiring to be an entrepreneur, this is probably the best time for that in India. If you have a curious mind, you will find lots of problems in India, which need to be solved. Be patient and continue perusing – you will definitely make enough money – and in fact even more than what you could have earned otherwise in a job. It is all about taking the bold step of leaving your comfort zone and coming out. And then keep learning, be courageous, know your mistakes and adapt to the changes.Sachi: Thank you Smruti, for coming down to this interview -
Entrepreneur’s Interview – BrizzTV
Sachi: Good Evening Amar, thank you for accepting to come on to this interview.Amar is the founder and CEO of Brizz TV. Brizz TV is an innovative platform that delivers internet content directly to the television using set top box technology.Without further adieu I would like to ask Amar to briefly tell us about his background and then about the idea?Amar:Thank you. My name is Amarendra Sahoo, I am a 2004 Computer Science Graduate from NITK Suratkal. After graduation from Suratkal in 2004 I worked across various companies like – Cisco, Juniper, and Lucent for about 5 year. Then I joined IIM Bangalore in 2009, and that is when I started the company – 2009 December.Clearing the CAT I would say was an accident, and I joined IIMB – also to fulfil the dream of my parents, wife etc – not many could get a selection to IIMB and not join it. In all this, I was still a “Techie” at heart. Neither the work as an IT professional nor the MBA knowledge was able to satisfy the void I felt. There was a period of self introspection and the meaning of the MBA and the work that would be of interest to me while at IIMB.I was also reading some very interesting technology and entrepreneurship blogs at the time, – the achievements of people seems to push me to believe I could do something too. I felt I had quite some time at my hand and I should consider starting off.I come from an embedded system, networks background and that probably fed me to believe I could do something more challenging than a e-commerce site. At the point I was thinking of all the idea I consciously stayed away from it even though ecommerce sites were getting a lot of funding.While all these questions were popping up at the back of my mind, one day while sitting in a case discussion on Reliance Big TV – as part of the Marketing Course; It struck me that I could be very interesting if we could show Wikipedia on the television without any complex internet stuff in it! A regular TV but with Internet content in it – That is how BrizzTV began.At BrizzTV, we show selected Internet content directly on your TV – Example, if we are pushing facebook on your TV you could watch it, unlike internet where you can pull the content. Just like you cannot watch a cricket match on ESPN unless it has been broadcasted, you wouldn’t be able to watch unless we broadcast it. So the data that we transmit will be available on the TV just like any normal channel.Our focus is to keep this medium affordable, accessible and easy to use. The problem that we are solving is pretty interesting – in a country with a large rural population, an investment into a PC wouldn’t be economical. Added to this would be the cost of internet. Internet is also not all pervasive, and also costly for a rural consumer.In addition to the cost of purchasing the PC, the other barrier for people to adopt to PCs is lies with the additional learning of the usage of the operating systems, brower etc that are a sort of barrier for adoption. Also the rural person could run his life without an internet connection!Given these thoughts, I wanted to give an affordable, accessible and simple solution – that would have to be the TV. There is not much complexity to using the TV too!Facebook which I used as an example earlier is just to make a mention – our focus is on providing quality content that would be mass consumed like; say Wikipedia, or Exam preparation etc. The facebook example was primarily to relate with the present generation J.Simply put, Brizz TV enables you put selected internet content on TV, available on a channel interface – say channel 931, 971 etc.Sachi: Could you tell us how you managed to put your first team together, and how you managed your finances?Amar:I never thought I was heading this company, and hence there was no thought of putting up the team as such. I discussed the idea with my friends, and whoever felt that the idea was good I believed we could form a team.The first friend I found this way was my batch mate from Surathkal – Jeetu. He was working with Cisco at that time. So we both came together to start this venture off. None of us were from the broadcast domain, and our limited understanding wouldn’t give us a real picture of the technical constraints we might face. We approached an expert – Krishnan who at that point was working at Philips and understood the set-top box pretty well. He encouraged us, and after some calculations and suggested this could be possible if a broadcaster like Airtel or Tata could agree. This was how we formed the first team.Coming to the point of Funding part – Both Jeetu and I were basically programmer, and hence we believed we didn’t need any funds to start off. We had a product bent of mind and hence finance was something that we didn’t bother much about. We began working on the product in December 2009 and by April 2010 we had built the prototype. We next had to move towards meeting a broadcaster.We approached NSRCEL with the thinking that they could help us connect with the broadcast companies. At NSRCEL we met Guhesh who thought the idea was cool enough to try – he had a friend at Airtel and we were able to get the traction. With this prototype demonstrated, Airtel was willing to work with us. Other things began to move ahead – we were funded by NSRCEL in December 2010. 6 months post the VC round of investment from NSRCEL, we got our next round of investment from Ojas.Sachi: Could you tell us how the discussion with Airtel happened, how was the experience?Amar:Airtel is a very partner friendly company, most of their activities are outsourced. They weren’t very aggressive in the negotiation too.I wasn’t looking for a negotiation too; I always thought that the product I was building had to see the light of the day. I approached it with an open mind.Airtel wanted the technology evaluation and proof of concept – all this happened extremely quickly. The approach seemed to be that we (Brizz TV) could do a lot of value add if the young team was taken care off. Airtel has been a fantastic organization to work with. Given their long term vision with Brizz TV, they offered what they generally offer to anyone else without much negotiation.There was some bit of luck and the remaining worked with the technical strength the team had.Sachi: You have been funded at a very early stage – it would be interesting to understand the experience?Amar: We are a pre-revenue product company – any VC who would invest in us wouldn’t be looking at any revenue for at least one year. It was pretty interesting if we look back at the instance. None of the factors seemed to be favoring us – I was studying, and there were 2 other members in the team. The product was just taking shape, and the company we were working with – Airtel was thought to be as someone whom a start up should be scared off. The technology that we were building was however a very interesting one.We went about looking at many VCs in search of funding. The IIMB – NSRCEL connection helped us get a ear from the people we met. Though the technology was interesting, it want something that was tested – they weren’t sure about the monetization prospects of the company.I was again luck that I came across to the Ojas investments – Mr Rajest. He was also an NITK alumnus, which helped connect better with him. The team seemed to have struck chords as well. The perspective of looking at Airtel being interested in us also seems to have worked for us. And I think he was willing to take the bet on us.Though initially we went about just meeting folks, we began to feel the pinch towards May 2011. We required the money for supporting the operator lab that was crucial for the testing of the final product. Again I believe it was luck that pulled us through.Sachi: Out of curiosity, did Airtel help you? Did they co-develop the product or did you get an infrastructure support ?Amar:Airtel provided free access to their labs, but given their schedules etc they couldn’t co-develop the product with us. We suggested that we would take care of the technology, and Airtel could help test the product in the lab.I should say they facilitated everything around technology development and that help for us.Sachi: Most of your team is from NITK. What do you think excited people to work with you??Amar: At college we were always perceived as being friendly guys, we were not considered geeks. People knew us as these are cool chaps and straight from heart. They do things right and they don’t lie. When they say something they mean it. I think this reputation seems to have paid off. So our friends are always willing to work with us.The open approach we have followed has helped us all through.Sachi: How do you envision yourself in the next 4 or 5 years?Amar: I think I should be still be rocking. Doing something that excites me something in the tech space. Hopefully Brizz tv, will be a much bigger company – more than just in terms of revenue. We intend to create something meaningful out of India that world finds useful.Sachi: If I could mention, you represented India at the Intel UC Berkeley Challenge. Could you tell us how that experience was? How did it help?Amar:The trip gave me a free trip to Berkeley – I saw a parking space “Reserved at all times for Nobel Laureates” – that excited me as I had never seen a Nobel laureate. I felt extremely excited about the concept.The competition was good too, we didn’t win the competition but the experience was pretty good. The exposure was pretty useful for us.Some of the competitors from China were doing a bio-oil business – this got me to think of the Indian context where we do 90% business and 10% technology. The kind of innovations from these countries seems to be more technology focused than us. It was a feeling like we could see the future being built here.Sachi: You are an MBA and an Entrepreneur – It is generally felt that this combination doesn’t work best. What do you have say about it?Amar:It is like telling people who have pistol are dangerous because they can fire!!MBA to me is a tool; it is good to have that. It tells you something beyond technology that you could use – you could value add.To me personally I have seen If I am not having MBA, things would have been little slower.It gives you a market focus, structures your thought.If there is a question is “Does the MBA make a better entrepreneur?” I cannot answer that question. But I am going to say it never going to be a harm it only helps as long as you know how to use it like a tool and it works in some person’s hand and does not work some else.Besides the large network that an MBA provides if you have graduated from a top institute, it gives you a different way of looking at things you know. I am personally excited of doing an MBA.It definitely adds value to my team, my company – but I am still a techie at heart. If you consider MBA to be a tool it would be a good perspective. – It never harms, it helpsSachi: What message would you like to send across to all the readers?Amar: Since I am a techie at heart, I would talk about technology. If you are a technology person, build your technology product first. Build it so well that world just cannot ignore it. People just cannot take their eyes off it.If you look at Indian web companies, there is lot of things as an engineer I never liked. The scope to improve is vast. You can make it 50% or 100% better than what it is today.Keep your eyes open. Don’t listen to the markets. The market’s foresight is pretty short – a quarter of a year.Do not believe when any one says you need leadership and all of that. All these are secondary. If you are good person given a chance, you can be a good leader.Build your character and just keep building a good product.Sachi: Thank you Amar, taking your time to this interview. Thank you once again.