Its been a long time since I actually wrote some stuff here… what have I been doing… ah! I have been working on another blog of mine… some posts already up there…..
http://sachi-journal.blogspot.com/
this is the link to the blog… its more of philosophical approach than anything else… people who are interested in some philosophy can read it over…. 🙂
Will get back to this once I have something really interesting to write down… 🙂
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New Blog!!!
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The Alchemy of Growth
Written by Mehrdad Baghai, Stephen Coley and David White; this book describes a new framework which for managing growth in any company. The concept of classifying the projects into three horizons and then explaining using Staircases how to create an environment by which the management of these ideas are easily accomplishable is very innovative and helps not just understand the challenge a company faces better but also helps a start up plan how to go about doing something it.I wouldnt go ahead explaining much about the book, its definitely a must read if you are searching for a source which will help you manage your company’s growth better.
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The greatness guide – Robin Sharma
There definitely something interesting in what he says… He repeats the same message, and keeps me going.
The greatness guide is a nice book, very small – similar to the book who will cry when you die. There are 101 chapters in this book, which remind me of the habit of journaling that he has. I picked up this habit from him from this book. I now write a journal daily, some thoughts that I value, something new that I learn.
A nice books to get back to the basic lessons, can be read in very quickly and get the summary of the route greatness which every individual wants to reach. As I would put it…its the basics that are very important to stick to; stick to the basics and you have a lot to achieve…
If you are searching for the book which would guide u to gr8ness, then this is one of them…
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Go Kiss the World – Subroto Bagchi
Subroto Bagchi – the co-founder of Mindtree has written this book which is basically his autobiography. After the initial success of his earlier book – the high performace entrepernuer, this is his second book.The title is very interesting, and he make a special mention of the reason why this book is named so; there is definitely an IIMB link to this naming as well… thatz what he told when he had comedown to give a orientation lectuer in our college for the fresh batch.
Bagchi can be see in a very philosophical mood in this book, he has given away a lot of philosophical perspective/gyaan to us. I would like to recommend this book for the philosophical insight that I was able to gain from the book…makes me look at the points which I have learnt in life in a greater detail.
One this that impressed me the most of his messages was – “You need to learn to receive…” very true…this one thing can change the whole perspective of life.
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Sharavati valley trek -1
Route:
Banglore -> Shimoga -> Sagara -> VageVaddi -> Basavanabaayi -> Padu beedu -> Belli gundi -> Godanagundi -> Padubeedu -> Jog -> Sagara -> Shimoga -> BangaloreAn awesome experience with people from different countries on the trek, a couple of people from Germany, Malta and people from different parts of the country itself – the locals, the bangaloreans, and the hydrabadis… all this was only to start off – we never realised when we got along to be a good team….For some this wes the first experience with leeches, for others a differnt terrain to trek…a nice mix of treks experiences for all of us.
I met up Mr Sampath on orkut, and was impressed by the trek pictures that were uploaded there… we shared some comments and then I decided to go on a trek to this awesome place, unperturbed by human habitation, still virgin forest… I had been waiting for a good break in my course during which I wanted to do this trek.
After a hectic schedule of exams and submission I decided I would join Sampath and group on the trek. Sampath had arranged a Tempo Traveller(TT) for us to get to the destination at the earliest, and save some time and use that effectively in trekking and getting to feel the nature…
The TT was parked at the railway station parking at Majestic, and it began its jouney at 10:30 pm, we picked up people on the way and started our jouney. A small break for Vinay to get his dinner packed and we moved further. As we crossed nelamangala, the rain God decided to shower his blessing on us and there was a constant down pour all along the journey.
The TT went slowly, partially due to the heavy rains and partially due to the bad roads, we reached kargal, a place some distance off Sagara at 745 am, where we got along with the 3 trekkers who had caught their bus to get to this place. The had come form Hydrabad the earlier night and had stayed in the hotel-lodge, visited Jog falls and had been waiting for us till then.
Day 1:
We had our first cup of tea at kargal, and then moved ahead towards vagevaDDi. The drive from kargal to VageVaDDi was around 45 minutes by the TT and we could see some lush green vegetation, some back waters of the lingan makki dam and so on. I caught up with some sleep in this 45 minutes as well.
We were to reach VagevaDDi at 830am, but given the bad roads and the weather we could only reach by 930. Mr Narayan was waiting there with the breakfast for us. He, Shridhar, and Mr Dharma were to be our guide cum cook for the next two days. They had prepared some akki rotti, badnekai chatni, and liquid jaggarey; they also cut a papaya for us; this spot were we had our breakfast was a nice place. The villagers had make a lake, which was to serve as the source of water for the fields, when the rains had died down – there had been no rains in the area for almost 10 days prior to our visit; for a moment I thought – “does this mean that most of the falls we visit wouldnt have water?’”
Just as everyone completed the breakfast we had a stand up meeting lead by Sampath to brief about the trek we were to begin, the route we were to follow, and some basic directions. Narayan was to lead the way for us and we would also have Shridhar to guide us along during the trek. We began our trek – I could see dence forest at a distance…my mind was already ready to move towards the direction, felt like running towards the lush green forest cover there and didnt want to spend too much time on the jeep route that we had begun.
My excitement was all put to a pause mode when, Sampath told me that there was a jeep route till Basavanbaayi. As we went from the green land into a more tree covered area; I found some company who looked very familiar…Yes!!! the leeches. “Ah! finally some fun this way” I thought… I would run through the dead and fallen leaves, the leeches would climb up and after some time I would halt to toss the climbing leeches off my shoes and socks… this was fun…after around 30 minutes walk from the starting point we reached the temple – Basavana baayi.
Most of the trekkers were busy getting the leeched off their shoes, some were already bleeding form the leech bites, some were jumping around not knowing what to do…They had applies eyucaliptus oil but that seems to have done little effect on the leeches. After completing this session of leech removal most of them set out to get to the falls.
In the mean time Philip who was now excited watching Narayan catch frogs began trying his luck. Philip seems to have an ability to attract animals towards him, earlier in the day he had cows running behind him and following him where ever he went, now he was trying to catch the frogs. Narayan was an expert at it and could catch the frogs with great ease; every time philip was to catch a frog it would jump off or get deeper into the water making it hard to find them…
Once all people were ready to get to the falls – actually to get to the place of fun and frolic for those who would like to get down in the falls for a shower. All those who had been bitten by the leeches took no time to get into the water and almost forgot that the were ever bitten by the leeches. We spent around 30 minutes at this falls and then got back to the temple to have our lunch.
The lunch was too good, the jackfruit pappad, the saambaar…humm… I can smell and taste the food…really well prepared… just as some of them were appreciating the lunch, the leeches which had been thrown out of the shoes and from the legs began their assult again…they bit quite a few of them and again the panic struck in the minds of the people. Sampat gave strick directions to follow the route which narayan and shridhar would show and not to wander off. We were a group of 18 people and keeping the tab on all would be a humongous task.
Just as we began the trek, shridhar leading from the front narayan in between and sampath towards the end. The leech count ouly increased as we began the trek upwards, the far off forest which I saw initially is where were trekking. We would walk some distance and then stand asking for salt and removing the leeches… while most of them were involved in removing the leeches, we had trekked for around an hour and had covered only a kilometer or just above it. Most of the team mates decided this wasnt what they were looking for.
Just as we continuted the trek, shridhar showed a small hole which was dug by the bear… using he expertise he could also tell this was just some time before we came and was a younger bear. It wouldnt be far off form the place were walking on. We stood there to have a look and just as most of the people were on our way we continued further… after some time narayan gave a call asking us to stop; I could see exitement in his eyes he came and explained how he has spotted a dear which ran across at lighting speed bisecting our line of trekkers.
Just as we continued our trek sampath could see the frustration on the face of the trekkers who didnt like the trek through the leech prone forest area. Sampath asked for the choise of path and most of the voted this time for a grassland with very few leeches. “So shall it be!!!” was the experession and we with shridhar leading the path walked towards the grassland to the left of the dense forest.
We walked through the grasslands, picking snaps of the distant mountains, the streams, the water holes on the way etc. the landscape reminded me of Poorna Chandra Tejaswi’s description of this hunting experiences. Shridhar guided us to his brother’s house were we rested for some time and clicked the pictures of a some gaint butterfly which were around their home. After a break of around 45 minutes we resumed our trek/journey through the grassland. We walked through the bunds bordering the fields and took pics of the muddy fields, people working in them etc… it was real fun clicking the snaps all over the place… we con
tinued our jounrney and took some rest at the vast grass land that was some distance away form the village and local inhabitation.Shridhar had gone ahead and got the groceries which we would carry along with us to the final resting spot of the day – the tribal’s house. We had some small games amoungst ourself here. Philip was busy trying to see if the Dogs can get him the frisbee that he throws at them…think he is still trying to train them [;)].
We resumed our trek/walk through teh jeep route and finally reached the tribal’s home where we decided to rest for the night, the place is called PaDubeedu. Narayan was quick to get some dry wood that had fallen off in the forest…his ability to get the dry wood and that too quickly combustible ones is remarkable. Sampath was mentioning about the experience with narayan getting along the woods even in a very rainy climate and being able to get the wood which would keep them warm…. really a skill which I appreciate after the experice at tadiandmol trying to make a camp fire.
Just as the sun set, and the camp fire took the lime light, we got into discussion and got to know each other better. Some of the trek enthusiasts were asking sampath & me about my trek experience, any encounters I had with wild animals, etc… we narrated our stories…just as we were into the discussion the dinner got ready and it was time for us to get to the bed.
The hosts were kind enough to let us spend the night at their home. Shridhar and Dharma had cooked an awesome dinner with a local flavor to it. Ah! I need to mention this – the Germans viz Philip and Dominic were all fans of the tea, and were a all time sport to the tea that was prepared. Tea just too good – it remined me of the tea at Gowdar mane on the Bandaje abbi trek…
We all slept quite early that night…ya early by all standards; I think it was jsut 930pm when we slept.
Day 2
We were to get up early finish the next day’s trek with relative ease. I woke up at 6:00 am when I could spot some brightness in the visinity. The atmosphere was relatively chilly and sampath and I got into discussion of the days plans. Shridhar and Dharma had got up early to help us have our breakfast.
I brushed my teech with the the mango leaves which the host gave me, it was a nice experience. It makes the whole feel look more natural…more rustic in a sense. Just as every one were ready with the daily chores, we decided to continue on our trek for the day after the breakfast. The breakfast was a local special called kadubu and uppit. I liked it…so did many of our team members. Philip and Dominic were on the tea spree again….well only till the tea got over [:)]We started off to the view point, which is a 45 minutes trek from the base camp…it was panaromic view. At one corner I could spot the Murudreshwara island, at the other end I could see the batkal town. There was the Arabian see at the horizon…There wasnt much clouc cover and it was great to get some nice pics. After a bried photography session we began a small trk towards the BelligunDi falls view point.
I was spell bound by the beauty of this falls. The backdrop of the falls has numerous mountain peaks, and dense forest cover. The water in the falls fell in only1 go from the top to the bottom. The vegetation around the falls was dense, I knew the whole trek was worth this one falls for me… I could have trekked any distance for this view…. I just am crazy of falls…
Just as all the trek group gathered there, the cloud decided to take control and not give the view to all of us. the winds played their game in moving the cloud from right to left and then from left to right, but there was no sign of clearning up to give the view of this falls again.
We decided to move ahead and spend some time at the Godana GunDi falls. Narayan lead the way till the falls, This time too we were through dense forest over and the leech prone area, but it seemed as though not many were really worried about the leeches now, they seemed to have accepted the reality of the leeches on the trek. We had real fun getting down the steep mountain to the base of the falls – slipping, skidding, jumping almost a stunt scene there…
The falls was a very neat one, not too high, not too small, it was ideal to have a bath…I too had a bath in the falls…I generally dont like having a bath in the falls inbetween a trek primarily becoz I believe that it saps a lot of energy which would be helpful in trekking long distances…may be I am wrong but I still believe in it 🙂
We had fun here, playing in the falls. The team from hydrabad had to leave early and so shridhar lead the 3 people to the tempo traveller which would take them to kargal from where they would be able to go to Hydbad…
Narayan took us to the top of the first level and no sooner had I taken a couple of snaps, it started raining. We were quick to get back to the path which leads us to the base camp. Another 30 minutes and we were at the base camp. We had an awesome lunch thanks once again to the cooking team….
We left the base camp, a walk for around 45 minuted down the jeep track, some photoshoots, some discussion with Sampth on his new water sports facility near honnemardu and we were on the main road, and then in the TT which would take us back to bangalore
We dicided to have a glimse of the world famous Jog Falls, but as our luck would have it… it was all misty, we could spot the traces of one of the 4 units, it was very hazy; and that didnt help. We got back into the TT and were on our way back to bangalore.
We reached Blore at 330 am, and went on our ways back home…
An awesome trek… will get back for more falls and more treks some time…
Some of the pics are at this link
http://picasaweb.google.com/sachidananda.bs/ SharavathiValley1# -
Meruti parvatha
Ah! finally a trek after a long time….The long wait after the trek it is worth it… A monsoon trek…how better can it get? wow a thrill of a life time… thatz exactly how it was…
After the ligament strain I had, which had put me off for more than 6 months from any strenuous work, this was a return debut for trekking that I was waiting for… and how better can it get? a monsoon trek…my first one officially….All these years I would go on a trek and it was incidental that it would rain…this time it was a planned one… it was an high anticipation trek…It was one I expected to be a full rain trek….I was geared to it…
This trek was again with Arun and company, Shrikanth, Subbu-1, Subbu-2, Tarsh matte Harsha… all with long trek experience…My anticipation for the trek and the precursor to the trek with the bomb blasts in Ahmedabad, made the trek all the more memorable…
I reached the majestic bus stand much earlier, I was at 2015 in the bus stand and was waiting for the rest of them, at 9:30 Arun and company arrived at the station…a small intro to being with and then we were on our way to board the bus…We boarded the bus to HoranaDu at 2215… and we intended to get down at KaLasa…A long journey in the bus to Kalasa, and then we reached there at 7:45 pm.
The first bus to basrikatte which is on the way from HoranaDu to Shringeri reaches Kalasa at 730 am. We missed the bus and needed to wait for the next bus, we had some hot tea and were waiting for the next bus when the rain started pouring down. We got in to rain preparation mode, purchasing some polythene bags and using our creativity to design and apparel out of the bags…it was an experience in itself…didnt know that there was a fashion designer in all of us…or was it the necessity? some one once said – necessity is the mother of all invention…may be this is what he meant…
We got down at Basarikatte and then had tea at the hotel there…the bus stops there for some time and we had a nice breakfast there, with uppit, avlakki, idli humm all yummy…after our breakafast for half an hour we changed to the trek gear… track suit, shoes etc.. We then began our trek….
A small distance walk back on the route the bus had taken us would take us to Mertikhan estate entrance… we started our photography session on the way; the rain which had taken a breakfast break as well had started pouring again… it was nice… we were all thrilled by the way the rain would keep the excitement in our trek…
A walk through the tea estates on either side for around 30 minutes and we came to the entrance of the estate office… we asked for permission to get to the peak of the meruthi parvatha. The office people told us that the usual route which takes people to the peak is closed and we needed to go through a round about route…they tried to dissuade us by saying there would be lakhs of leeches down on the side, and getting through the forest would be really difficult.
While Arun and Shrikanth were busy getting the permission work, the remaining of us were busy with our photography sessions…the rain had stopped as thought to give us some nice view of the lad far off, the surrounding hills etc… we were in the middle of a lush green tea plantation, and we could spot the tea estate workers working at brisk pace in the estate… all a picturesque view to keep in our imagination… you need to live it to savor it…a image worth keeping for the rest of a life time.
Arun and Shrikanth had done their bit and got the permission… we started our photography cum trek ahead, the rain was pouring in periodic cycles…ya pouring…there is no other equivalent word to it… it was just too heavy… we had to keep our cameras in good care, else it would stop functioning…After around an hours walk we reached the estate guesthouse, and asked for directions again.
The lady in the house directed us to go through the estate plantations and then through the forest…you can get to peak that way!!! well we stared on our trek…Another walk of around 45 minutes through the estate and the forest, Shrikanth taking the lead as usual we reached a clearing above the forest over….
Subbu-2 the high enthu guy decided to see if there was any other way nearby, We only knew the direction of the peak, and didn’t know the actual peak…The rain had halted since we had asked for directions from the guest house lady. We took a break of around 15 minutes to see if any leeches had climbed on… fortunately there weren’t many till now…I followed another train not the one which subbu had chosen and spotted r peak on to the left of the clearing…subbu-2 came running down and wanted to climb the peak…we were busy clicking the pics… at the far end we could spot HoranaDu… the place where we wanted to go… it looked as if it would take eternity to reach the place…
Another 5 minutes and we were ready to leave to the peak… the weather got worse, it was just rain that we needed to face till now, and now almost at the peak it was the wind which was giving us more of a challenge than a rain… The wind made it look as though, the rain drops were bullets directed to us… A braved trek for another 45 minutes and we decided to take a break for lunch…for some time we thought the place where we sat was the peak – the meruti parvata…We couldnt see anything more than 5 meters away… it was that cloudy…
Just as we were done with our lunch half way through, as though to tell us – you people still have long way to go…We had some amazing fun there during the lunch break, and following which we decided to continue our trek to the peak… another 10 minutes trek and we were at the peak…
There is a ganesha temple at the peak…looks like there is some pooja done once an year, and not many people come there… we could see some cigarette butts at the peak…think these might be of some trek group that had come earlier….We spent around 15 minutes at the peak…the weather got worse again and we decided to get back…
We had to reach horanaDu by night and its only then that we could catch our busy and get to business the next day…With all the fun of a early monsoon rain, and a great trek we reached HoranaDu at 5:00 pm.
We booked a room at one of the lodges there and then took a hot water bath…The evening dinner was at the temple….We waited in the bus after checking out from the lodge, and then sat in the bus. The bus was to leave at 9:15pm but as the heavy rains had got the river overflowing, it was really hard to get over…this meant that we would not get to our business!!!
Another half an hour of intense prayers, and some fun filled memories being discussed, we got to know that the river had subsided, the bleak possibility of reaching Bangalore now looked to be a reality…
Another nights good sleep in the bus and we were in Bangalore at 6 am in the morning. All of us went on our own routes back to business… there was new set of friends to make, a new place to visit, lot new learning… and finally the memories… with every trek it only makes me appreciate the beauty of nature… not just the way the environment is, but the uncertainties the sudden twists and turns that emerge…all make it a course in itself…. a course for which the fees you pay is minimal, but the benefits are innumerable…well may be as a student at IIMB this is how I am looking at it…
And just to follow it up… I read in the news paper the next day that there was some naxal activity in the mertikhan estate, and the STF was searching for the naxals who had left some of their material and the sort there…What an experience!!! ya really… would be memorable.. -
Family Wisdom from the monk who sold his ferrari – Robin Sharma
After who will cry when you die, the monk who sold his ferrari, this is the third book I have read by Robin Sharma. Why do I read his books? well not that it totally inspires me to do something that he says….but as I told you, he just helps me recollect and understand my own thoughts better.
This book is about personal leadership, how to transform the personal leadership into action and help the family grow better as a whole, through this 5 principles of family mastery he has tried to communicate simple yet profound messages. I second that the use of these principles would help us live a more fulfilling and complete life than we are leading now.
I would say, there is a message for everyone who wants to live a more complete life; if you are one of them, then go ahead have a read. -
The three mistakes of my life – Chetan Bhagat
This is one of the three books by Chentan, I have read all three and must agree…this is not one of this best…Five Point Some One, One night at a Call Center and now The 3 mistakes of my life…
His narration is good, but some where I feel there is no great strength in the story that he says…I personally believe the story has to be thought provoking giving the reader a completely different perspective…making him reflect on himself, see new avenues for growth or atleast some improvements….In none of the three books do I find such a thought provoking issue or agenda….Its only the narration that interests the readers… if coupled with the strong thought provoking story line I see a huge area for improvement….
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Omniscient & Omnipotent
me: innen samachara
Guruprasad: illi inna summer time….so aaramagi nadhithide(nothing, its summer time so all going well.)
me: cool
Guruprasad: do u get any time while
u seem to have read a lot of books a
and travelling also
me: he he… adella chance sikkaga maDle bkalva(need to do all that well u get a chance rt!)… its jst a matter of priorities
correct taane(rt!)
Guruprasad: right…..
I wish I could be more like u !
somehow I can’t compromise with my sleep !
me: no u are unique…. if u are like me then thr is no use of me
Guruprasad: I am trying to do lot of stuff…like photography, travel, gym, …
me: u will get over it
good thatz gr8
nice to keep trying different things…
Guruprasad: but it sucks out all the energy out of me for my studies finally !
me: he he… its the mind that makes something refreshing or not…
Guruprasad: u right sir..
me: so if u simulate
actually feeling bored is only a matter of not feeling interested enough
or say simulating enough
en antira?
Guruprasad: and btw what do u think for my status msg ?
me: can u paste them over?
Guruprasad: “I am Omniscient and I am Omnipotent. Ergo, I am Lying.”
Guruprasad did not receive your chat.
me: i differ on the last u arent lying… thou art really that
we are omniscient and omnipotent…
Guruprasad: I mean’t it …
Both cannot be true at the same time…
it contradicts Logic
me: both as in…
Guruprasad: and Reason
me: he he…
Guruprasad: Say if
me: humm…
Guruprasad: then u cannot change anything
me: he he…
u have already seen so u can always change cant u?
Guruprasad: But if u change something, it means u r not omniscient
then what u have seen will not happen
me: you are omniscient… which means u know wht leads to wht… not that I have seen everything… it only implies I understand better than usual
Omnipotent says one can has the energy to change it…
wht if he is the energy himself? he definitely can change himself rt…
thr by change wht is the end result?
Guruprasad: hmm….that changing the definition of Omniscient
It doesn’t matter so the energy is right
It should hold good for all cases
me: changing the commonly held view of Omniscient
not its meaning
he he… are u sure?
will everything be good for all times?
in all situations?
Guruprasad: nopes..
me: dont thngs change?
Guruprasad: so ?
things change
me: so y not meaning and interpretations?
Guruprasad: but nobody can predict the future and still have the power to change it
he can either do one thing not both…
they are mutually exclusive properties
Sent at 11:03 AM on Wednesday
me: he he..
Guruprasad: if one is truly omniscient, then he should be able to predict his own actions to change the current future
and thereby goes recursive
me: prediction is a game of probability rt
Guruprasad: and we get crazy !
me: it needs that 1.5 kg sooooooper computer sitting on our shoulders to get into action…
thtz it…
Guruprasad: I believe it is with the probability ‘0’
me: prob is not zero for any thing kano…
Guruprasad: hmm
me: we in our smaller intellect choose to make a lot of assumptions…
and thr by make things of higher probabiltiy for a certain event…
we look for causality and not co-relations
we confuse co-relation with causality all the time
or atleast most of the times
Guruprasad: co-relation interesting…
co-related with what ?
me: whn some one predicts some tng..using palmistry or some other technique he only gives a co-relation based understanding…
he cannot state something to be causal…
he only predicts based on the past data…
but that doesnt get all encompassing
Guruprasad: thats interpolation
me: its again as u say… some sort of interpretation…
not even interpolation…
Guruprasad: extending the past curve right
me: this has been the basis of al attempts to predict…
ya… some sort of …
not exactly tho…
Guruprasad: ya…
me: some time thr is the factor of intuition which is un predictable tht plays a major role…
so finally wht some one predicts only is based on past
but doesnt get all encompassing…
so there is a lot of un explored things… and so there is abundant scope to get to teh new
Guruprasad: ya….such prediction are very limited in very dynamic situations
ya…
me: so we sometimes claim that those ppl who can co-relate better to be omniscient..
or rather in most cases…
but again they dont know
its like the case of a student who wanted to show case to his teacher tht he was damn smart
Guruprasad: actually the metaphor I was using was God
me: humm
well hang on
Guruprasad: ok
me: he gets a small bird in his hand to the teachers cabin and say…
sir I have a bird in my hand can u tell me if its living or dead…
so he was confident he could any way change the consequence based on wht the teacher told him
Guruprasad: ok..
me: the bird was living whn he brought it in
if the teacher told its living he could kill it and if he told it was dead then
then he could let if fy…
he thought he had all the strings under his control
he thought he knew the future…
Guruprasad: teacher’s answer ?
me: the teachers reply was
;”I wont say if the bird is living or dead… I only know tht its existence is defined by ur choise”
so was the student actually knowing all?
Guruprasad: did he claim that he knew all ?
so…that stupid
me: atleast he thought…
thatz exactly wht u are trying to say…
Guruprasad: no…
not that point..
me: omniscience… is only that state…
and omni potence was the realization given by the teacher
getting to the next level which the student didnt expect… letting him know of a greater truth…
Guruprasad: Omniscience – All Knowing
right
me: its like getting into the shell of… all very beautifully packed within one another
so at the end of the story the teacher becomes omniscient jst by letting the student realize he is omnipotent…
Guruprasad: see…thats true..
me: its not a permanent state… its a stat e of flux… thatz wht i wnt to tell
Guruprasad: the teacher or the student is not both
they are only 1 state not both at any time
me: thr is nothing like complete truth… everything is evolutionary..
humm rt…
flux as I call it…
< p>nice discussion kano
Guruprasad: it could be flux, but a entity cannot be both at any point right ?
me: well u can call this paradox… but wht some call the GOD, I would call it life
or nature… that makes be feel better…
Guruprasad: ya….
me: so I thru my limited understanding would not at any point be able to
Guruprasad: so..when people say God is both…
me: be omni-*
Guruprasad: its actually contradictory
me: but wht if u see nature closely…
thru all its species it is trying gain nothing more than experience…
and in the process growing into being a completely new state…
we exist till thr is life in us…
we dont carry anything…
we start relating to the body and our identity of ego…
Guruprasad: We carry Genes…..but thats for another discussion I guess
me: in the process we some whr loose a lot of our powers which we can tap
if we disassociate frm the identity of ego…
Guruprasad: ok…
me: we would be going for experience.. and thru the gigantic network of various degrees of intelligence come to a new state of enlightenment…
and in some cases using tit to create beauty in the process…
Guruprasad: nice…
me: we as human are only catalysts…each one some way different from the other to get a different experience…
that is exactly y I told u – “if u are like me then there is no meaning in my existance… “
at the beginning…
Guruprasad: Omniscient I guess ?
me: so wht GOD/nature/ life is wanting from us is not
our triviality of trying to understand things and jst stop… we need to continue and make more creative works
be it in any field…
Guruprasad: hmm….
me: we need to use our huge 1.5 guy who is at the top to create things… not to jst brood on memories…
Guruprasad: 1.5 guy ?
me: I dont claim we should not work on our memories… we should not stick at tht point and judge any experience.. we need to extract the essence, take it along and then create something new
ya 1.5 guy = the brain…
Guruprasad: ok…. I don’t deny that
creating new is what we all are trying to do in some way ..
me: its like u have the choice to carry the dead wood or extract the essence and carry it along…
Guruprasad: sure…I am with u, on that one
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me: and to emphasize this further u can also observe tht its once we create something new
thtz whn we are the happiest…
this new thing can be by listening to some one… reading something… exploring/discovering etc…
thtz y a baby is so happy…and it doest stick with the dead wood…its looking for the essense…
doesnt it look so simply beautiful… we in our busy life start loosing the essence of all this…
alva?
Guruprasad: ya… Learning is a continuous process
and as adults we stick on to established ideas…
me: as we grow… some realize whr they are and wht excites them…
and follow.. some jst search and give up… some never start the search…
Guruprasad: ya….
did u see randy pausch’s last lecture ?
me: illa…(no)
ellide adu?(whrz it?)
have no idea kano…
Guruprasad: on utube
its a good
me: hey am planning to put this on
my blog… wht say?
Guruprasad: I have no problems
me: cool…
its actually a discussion on spirituality as I have learnt it
Guruprasad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo
me: will look at the lecture
Guruprasad: ya…to to some extent
me: as said next discussion on genes
bye tc
cya
Guruprasad: I am up for that !
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An interesting discussion with my friend over Gtalk thought of sharing it.
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Love Story 2050
Hey man for some time I thought I was seeing Hritik on the screen….Harman Baweja seems to be a total mimic of Hritik Roshan… the moves when he dances, the way he acts all resemble a lot….
This is a partial sci-fi movie where in a time machine is able to teleport ppl and get them from the future into the past!!! what a fantacy….Some nice imagination has gone into the creation of the sets and fiction!!! I definitely appreciate that…
Boman has been at his usual best in getting the humor…I remember the conversation when he enters into a museum dedicated to him and responds to the robot sitting there… it was real funny instance…
A nice time pass movie… nothing great to look forward to except for the special effects and the concept… A single viewing wouldnt make ur money a loss definitely….